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Poor Counseling from Professor Eliphaz

Job 4-7 · Week 3

Consider: Who has perished when he wasinnocent? Where have the honest been destroyed?

Job 4:7

The Big
Question

Is all suffering really God's retribution for sin, as Eliphaz claims?

Start get started.

Job's three friends came with a good plan: sit with him and grieve alongside him for a week without saying a word. This week, Eliphaz finally speaks, offering Job his first round of counsel.

Eliphaz and his friends all believe in the retribution principle: God blesses good behavior and punishes bad behavior, so suffering must mean Job sinned. It sounds tidy, but chapters 1-2 already tell us that isn't true.

Move dig deeper.

  1. Job 4-5

    Eliphaz's false syllogism

    Eliphaz's logic runs: all suffering is God's retribution for sin, Job is suffering, therefore Job's suffering is punishment. He even says that in his own experience the innocent don't perish, so Job must have sinned. But God already called Job blameless, so the premise itself is false.

  2. Job 4-5

    Why this is unhelpful

    Eliphaz's counsel fails two ways: it isn't true, and it minimizes God down to a box labeled why people suffer. He'd rather sit in the seat of judgment than admit God's ways are higher than his own explanations.

  3. Job 6-7

    Job still appeals to God

    Job compares his friends to a dried up riverbed, promising refreshment but delivering none. Like a donkey that only brays when hungry, Job's cries prove real pain, not sin. By chapter 7 he stops arguing with friends and appeals straight to God instead.

Enduring Truth

We don't suffer alone; evenChrist suffered innocently, and if we suffer with Him, we will also be glorified with Him.

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Poor Counseling from Professor Eliphaz

Group Discussion & Response

Job 4-7

Talk talk it over.

  1. Eliphaz built his whole argument on his own experience, saying the innocent don't perish. Why is personal experience such a risky foundation for deciding why someone else is suffering?

  2. Eliphaz says at the end of his speech that he and his friends have investigated this and know it's true. What's the danger of confusing confidence with being right?

  3. Job says he refuses to suffer in silence, comparing his cries to salt on bland food. What's the difference between crying out to God honestly and complaining against Him?

  4. Pastor DJ pointed out that Job's friends cared more about being right than being helpful. When have you been tempted to correct someone's theology instead of just comforting them?

Do respond this week.

  1. Pray

    Ask God to help you comfort people who are hurting instead of trying to diagnose or explain their pain.

  2. Praise

    Thank Jesus that He suffered innocently on your behalf, and that suffering isn't the end of your story, glory is.

  3. Preach

    Remind yourself this week that not all suffering is punishment, and that God's ways are higher than your explanations.

  4. Practice

    The next time someone you love is hurting, sit with them in silence before you offer any advice.

Close in Prayer

Father, forgive us for the times we've reduced You to try to force you to fit into our own finite minds and for being more concerned with being right than being helpful. Thank You that Jesus suffered innocently for us, and that if we suffer with Him, we will also be glorified with Him. Teach us to sit with the hurting before we speak, and to trust Your sovereignty over every hard season. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Notes & Reflection